Should Trump Let LA BURN? Plus FAKE GAVIN And Part II With Orban!

In this episode, Ben Shapiro examines the intersection of the LA fires crisis and federal immigration enforcement under the Trump administration. The episode opens with commentary on what Shapiro terms the Fake Gavin phenomenon, setting the stage for a broader analysis of how Democratic officials and media outlets are responding to Trump's enforcement actions. Mayor Karen Bass issued a curfew in response to the fires and claimed the city was covered in graffiti, though the New York Times attempted to reframe the narrative in a more favorable light toward city leadership. Shapiro analyzes statements from various Democratic figures, including California Attorney General Rob Bonta who characterized the crisis as manufactured, and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who called Trump's actions unprecedented and authoritarian. The episode features commentary from Congresswoman Maxine Waters, who stated that nobody was shot or killed during the enforcement operations, and Representative Torres, who called for ICE to retreat from California entirely. Shapiro contrasts these Democratic critiques with statements from the Trump administration, including Secretary of Defense Hegseth's assertion that ICE has the legal right to conduct operations in California. Trump's own statement about potentially invoking the Insurrection Act is discussed as a significant escalation in the administration's response. The episode examines how prevalent illegal immigration actually is in the context of these debates and questions whether the Democratic response reflects genuine policy disagreement or political posturing. Nancy Pelosi's cryptic statement suggesting the unrest could be either exuberance or anarchism is analyzed as reflective of the confusion surrounding the crisis. Throughout the episode, Shapiro presents what he views as contradictions in Democratic messaging and questions the consistency of their positions on federal authority and emergency response. The second segment features part two of Shapiro's interview with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, bringing international perspective to broader themes of governance and national sovereignty. The episode ultimately raises questions about the appropriate balance between immigration enforcement, emergency response, and federal authority in addressing the LA crisis.